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Jon Stewart Can't Believe the Republicans' Crazy Predictions for Obama's Second Term

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Back in 2008, President Obama's political opponents made a lot of predictions about what an Obama presidency would do to America. The reality didn't quite live up to their socialist, fundamental Islamist hype..........

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Colonial82

Well, the favorite crazy prediction for Obama's second term is the one that since he hasn't taken away our 2nd Amendments in his 1st term, it means he will in his 2nd. I love the logic behind that predictions. Couldn't we just have an election on issues and not personally attacking and making up garbage? I know that is too much to ask :(

Everyone is always welcome on my seeds, I will try recommend everyone's post for taking their time to do so, and I won't delete anyone. Please stay respectful of one another. Please watch your language.

  • 48 votes
#1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:23 AM EST
Daniel A. Hallo

An argument for Obama and against the GOP lies and.

"The happiness of governments like ours wherein the people are truly the mainspring is that they are never to be despaired of. When an evil becomes so glaring as to strike them generally, they arouse themselves, and it is redressed. He only is then the popular man and can get into office who shows the best dispositions to reform the evil. This truth was obvious on several occasions during the [Revolutionary] war, and this character in our government saved us. Calamity [is] our best physician." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Price, 1785. Papers 7:630

http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/odonnell-full.jpg

  • 16 votes
#1.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:53 AM EST
douglasq

Well, the favorite crazy prediction for Obama's second term is the one that since he hasn't taken away our 2nd Amendments in his 1st term, it means he will in his 2nd.

He hasn't locked us up on FEMA camps in his first term, so watch out for it in his second.

And Michelle hasn't made fatty foods illegal in his first, so hide your Buffalo wings in his second.

His ACORN/New Black Panther shock troops haven't taken over your local city council and imposed curfews for white people in his first term, so be prepared on inauguration day.

His Radical Muslim/Atheist alliance has not outlawed prayer in your church in his first term, so get your praying in while you can.

How'd I do?

  • 47 votes
#1.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:19 AM EST
Susan-649485

You forgot the Death Panels, Douglasq!

  • 33 votes
#1.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:31 AM EST
Louie Lou

And the sad thing about all of this is that their supporters BELIEVE all this crap! BUT, they accuse US of being the sheep, right?!

  • 37 votes
#1.4 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:45 AM EST
infrared

Death Panels

where?!?

  • 9 votes
#1.5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:04 PM EST
StevieGee

In the death camps.

  • 12 votes
#1.6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:13 PM EST
Topcat Roosevelt

Nice touch with the Terminators Sarah Connor at the end ...the right is normally fine purveyors of @!$%# thats never going to happen, but it seems the better the President performs , the more unhinged their rants become .

  • 22 votes
#1.7 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:13 PM EST
Robert Bartholomew

Jon Stewart can't believe the Republicans are being stupid? I can't believe that!

  • 39 votes
#1.8 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:34 PM EST
CMlawyer

Truth. If they are stupid enough to believe that 50 years ago the Hawaiian birth records were manipulated to allow a foreign baby to be registered so that he could magically become US President a half a century later, why is it so hard to think they are stupid enough to believe that the whole first term was a "long con" as Stewart puts it, to set us up for his second term? Yeah, Nov. 3rd the world turns upside down... or not.

  • 34 votes
#1.9 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:45 PM EST
David Walker

CMlawyer:

If Republicans can have an all-powerful, invisible god who created the universe 6,000 years ago, I don't see why Democrats can't have a socialist, commie, islamo-fascist god who could plant phony birth records in Hawaii barely 50 years ago.

  • 21 votes
#1.10 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:29 PM EST
hard2port

Geez, why has it taken so long for Obama's planned marxist dictatorial take over with the imposition of Sharia law? /s

  • 18 votes
#1.11 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:38 PM EST
Michael in S J

Jon Stewart can't believe the Republicans are being stupid? I can't believe that!

Oh, come on, Robert Bartholomew: it is called farcical satire!!

/s/s/s/s/s/s/s

  • 4 votes
#1.12 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:56 PM EST
Andy Horning

David Walker, I may not like what you said, but it was funny.

  • 5 votes
#1.13 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:20 PM EST
LassenPark

I don't see why Democrats can't have a socialist, commie, islamo-fascist god who could plant phony birth records in Hawaii barely 50 years ago.

While He was a newborn infant in Kenya, no less...a miracle!!!

  • 6 votes
#1.14 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:31 PM EST
VerbalBarb

Geez, why has it taken so long for Obama's planned marxist dictatorial take over with the imposition of Sharia law? /s

Obviously, he's coming at it the loooooooong way 'round, starting with supporting women's reproductive health services. ;0)

  • 9 votes
#1.15 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST
Slinger-958418

Obviously a few of these Newsvine posters are slightly misguided, because I just saw on another Newsvine thread that "Obama will be implementing Sharia Law, if he is reelected".......Oh my!!!!!!!!!!! What next??? They are also saying "all the women will be wearing Hi jab's or Burqa's"........... Frankly they are really scaring me now. :/

  • 13 votes
#1.16 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:29 PM EST
Miss_Diagnosed

I wrote an article (sarcastic) in 2008 about how he was going to eat our children...

I think I said he was going to bring about biblical plague too... now Im going to have to read that article again to see if anything I predicted came true...

  • 9 votes
#1.17 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:32 PM EST
Slinger-958418

Re-seed that article and REALLY get them going! <evil snicker>

  • 9 votes
#1.18 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:38 PM EST
Pablo-123

He hasn't locked us up on FEMA camps in his first term, so watch out for it in his second.

And Michelle hasn't made fatty foods illegal in his first, so hide your Buffalo wings in his second.

His ACORN/New Black Panther shock troops haven't taken over your local city council and imposed curfews for white people in his first term, so be prepared on inauguration day.

His Radical Muslim/Atheist alliance has not outlawed prayer in your church in his first term, so get your praying in while you can.

How'd I do?

You forgot the mandatory abortions and forced birth control. Better get your babies in now.

Acutaully, I'm kind of looking forward to the forced marijuana smoking.

  • 4 votes
#1.19 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:33 PM EST
CapnJohnSmith

Forced Marijuana SMOKING!!!
PRAISE the Lord of HIGH!!

  • 9 votes
#1.20 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:53 PM EST
Mike Rupert

I saw this last night. It was freaken hilarious and right on.

  • 2 votes
#1.21 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:14 PM EST
Drakkonis

Personally, I'd like John Stewart for president.

  • 6 votes
#1.22 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:58 PM EST
Jumpmaster82

Nah, that wouldn't work, because it's too much like reality. Life is never all up or all down. Jon tends to keep us up by making fun of the down, that would drive the GOP into a frenzy that we could watch and say Thats just not funny.

I used to be GOP, I'm independent now because I don't like people misinforming me, but worst I don't like people misinforming me and forcing it down my throat or in most recent news up my wife's Kuchi.

  • 1 vote
#1.23 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:57 AM EST
SuperSaiyan

I'm beginning to think that Charlie Sheen has more sense than the far right.

Also the Washington Post had an article about this the other day...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/on-the-president-as-alien/2012/02/22/gIQAces8TR_story.html

  • 5 votes
#1.24 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:25 PM EST
LassenPark

A dirt clod has more sense than these goofs.

  • 4 votes
#1.25 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:01 PM EST
onefan51

SuperSaiyan

But those who cast Obama as something other than one of us don’t understand him and don’t understand what it means to be American.

The only thing E.J. Dionne left out of his article, in the link you provided, was: "Nor do they want to understand."

  • 4 votes
#1.26 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:51 PM EST
Daniel A. Hallo

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." --Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816.

Why else would you think conservatives undermine public education in this country?

  • 6 votes
#1.27 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:18 PM EST
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onefan51

I watched the segment. It was hilarious. It's also amazing how any rational person could believe any of the nonsensical bull@!$%# being spewed by these idiotic rethugpublicon clowns. Yet, a lot of people whole-heartedly believe this bull@!$%#. That's what's shocking ... and it's very, very, very scary.

  • 24 votes
#2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:58 AM EST
Zen-Hydra

onefan51

Yet, a lot of people whole-heartedly believe this bull@!$%#. That's what's shocking ... and it's very, very, very scary.

Such is exactly why sane people should never dismiss them as harmless lunatics.

For all of the stupid things they say, GOP leaders are not idiots. They are opportunists who know how to work their demographic. These are politicians who are using the same fear-mongering tactics that were written about by Cato and Cicero.

  • 19 votes
#2.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:21 AM EST
onefan51

GOP leaders are not idiots. They are opportunists ...

Agreed. They are self-serving opportunists who are ... unethical ... liars ... hypocrites ...

  • 15 votes
#2.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:31 AM EST
Shelby Davenport

people should never dismiss them as harmless lunatics.

Well, I consider them extreme lunatics....but they are definitely NOT harmless!

Jon Stewart called it. Unfortunately, the Faux News crack addicts can't change the channel.

  • 17 votes
#2.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:35 AM EST
Zen-Hydra

They are self-serving opportunists who are ... unethical ... liars ... hypocrites ...

The ironic beauty of their confidence game is that they time-after-time tell their constituents exactly what they plan to do with their elected power, and yet the marks willingly tie the nooses around each other's necks.

  • 12 votes
#2.4 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:39 AM EST
Zen-Hydra

Shelby Davenport

Well, I consider them extreme lunatics

My problem with this is view is that it marginalizes those who are legitimately mentally ill, and removes some level of accountability from GOP leadership.

These people are, for the most part, playing to their audience. They are using hyperbolic language to whip their constituency into an omaphagic fury. History depicts to us how often such fervor works out for the greater good.

  • 9 votes
#2.5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:08 PM EST
ryoushi12

Good point zen.

It reminds of the remarks Spencer Tracy made in the movie Judgment at Nuremburg, when he said that if the Nazis and those that helped them had truly been madmen and insane perverts, then the Nazi disaster would have no more moral signifcance than an earthquake or other natural disaster. The Moral significance comes from the fact that many of those who actively participated in the crimes of the Nazi regime were "normal", doing it for love of country, or to save a society they thought was falling apart or some other excuse.

The failing was that in the last extremity, they jettisoned everything they said they valued, in order to "save" everything they valued.

And, an excellent movie and one I recommend to anyone who wants an introduction into how even extraordinary people can do the most banally evil things in the name of "good"

  • 11 votes
#2.6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:27 PM EST
Zen-Hydra

“The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil.”

“Under conditions of tyranny it is far easier to act than to think. ”

“The trouble with Eichmann was precisely that so many were like him, and that the many were neither perverted nor sadistic, that they were, and still are, terribly and terrifyingly normal. From the viewpoint of our legal institutions and of our moral standards of judgment, this normality was much more terrifying than all the atrocities put together.”

“It was as though in those last minutes he was summing up the lessons that this long course in human wickedness had taught us - the lesson of the fearsome, word-and-thought-defying banality of evil. ”

― Hannah Arendt

  • 8 votes
#2.7 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:34 PM EST
leftcoastblue

@Zen-Hydra,

Ten points for using omaphagic in a sentence!!!

(Seriously, it's worth more than ten, but I'm giving you something to shoot for...)

FR sent.

  • 1 vote
#2.8 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:38 AM EST
Zen-Hydra

Cheers, leftcoastblue!

FR accepted.

  • 2 votes
#2.9 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:49 AM EST
Daniel A. Hallo

Yes leftcoastblue, Zen-Hydra is very intelligent.

Great posts here.

Using "Omophagia" in a description of the Right reminded me of this observation of the first American conservatives made by Jefferson that still holds true today…

"I should suspect error where the [monocrats], found no fault. The buzzard feeds on carrion only." --Thomas Jefferson to Barnabas Bidwell, 1806.

  • 2 votes
#2.10 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:09 AM EST
LassenPark

Daniel, you should get points for the correct spelling and for doing it so subtly.

  • 1 vote
#2.11 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:29 PM EST
Daniel A. Hallo

Can I get bonus points for my dyslexia ? :)

  • 1 vote
#2.12 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:55 PM EST
LassenPark

You betcha. ;>)

  • 2 votes
#2.13 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:59 PM EST
Zen-Hydra

LassenPark

Daniel, you should get points for the correct spelling and for doing it so subtly.

Indeed. I often wish the correction window wasn't so limited on Newsvine.

  • 2 votes
#2.14 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:08 PM EST
Daniel A. Hallo

Face it, not everyone can afford a secretary to take dictation.
"omaphagic" was spelled correctly in the context of the sentence btw, so I am a little bemused here.

  • 1 vote
#2.15 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:45 PM EST
LassenPark

Hell, what do I know? I had to go look it up.

  • 1 vote
#2.16 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:43 PM EST
Daniel A. Hallo

I’m thankful for this…

The GOP. Gluttonous Omaphagic Party.

  • 2 votes
#2.17 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:33 PM EST
uaw-779887

Republicans can't win a election based on facts none of the facts support them

  • 2 votes
#2.18 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:20 PM EST
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Lynn-410457

Each and everyday they get crazier and crazier. Now they have become fortune tellers, soothsayers and know what's in the future? I thought they were televangelists, crazed preachers, and solvers of all problems great and small. The problem is the circus clowns they have clamoring for the nomination, do not have enough sense to come in out of the rain, let alone solve anything. The Republican party has been overtaken by a bunch of people that are crazed, want everything their way or the highway and have no idea how to solve or do anything, other than say no!

  • 18 votes
Reply#3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:31 AM EST
Plumpudding

sounds like a good discription of the democrates!!!!!!!

    #3.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:36 PM EST
    Lynn-410457

    Plump, Either you need to use spellcheck or get a dictionary. Democrats is spelled D E M O C R A T S!

    • 7 votes
    #3.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:50 PM EST
    Carl Lafoon

    Lynn. You are right on about the Republicans. They hate facts. Almost every time they comeout with some prediction it is based upon how they see the facts ie LIES.

    I am sure the American People have had enough of this lieing scum and will pull the correct lever in November. I know they have pissed off a vast majority of the American Women. If Momma is not happy not one is going to be happy.

    • 2 votes
    #3.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:12 PM EST
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    NC Slim

    There must be a meth spa for Republicans somewhere. Apparently, they are suffering the effects of sipping “crank-a-tinis.”

    • Delusions/hallucinations--candidates think they have ovaries
    • Obsessive behavior--over social issues and not economic. Hello? Jobs,jobs, jobs!
    • Uncontrollable movement--to the far, far right
    • Aggression--against each other and 99% of America
    • Inability to experience pleasure--ever see a Republican smile?
    • Depression--party chiefs despondent over failed TP “cat herding” project
    • 11 votes
    Reply#4 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:48 AM EST
    Shelby Davenport

    Only one minor point of contention, NC Slim:

    Inability to experience pleasure--ever see a Republican smile?

    Newt Gingrich. He smiles. Evil smile, pleasurable smile ("mistresses") and he looked positively giddy last night....?

    • 8 votes
    #4.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:56 AM EST
    Susan-649485

    Remember Cain's creepy smile?

    Let's just say conservatives can't smile in a way that doesn't make the rest of us shudder.

    ETA: Sarah Palin's smile. Before I knew anything about her I was instinctively repulsed by her smile. I don't know why. I've never been able to understand why so many people find her attractive.

    • 10 votes
    #4.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:04 PM EST
    Zen-Hydra

    Let's just say conservatives can't smile in a way that doesn't make the rest of us shudder.

    That's because it's the predatory smile of a crocodile.

    • 13 votes
    #4.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:11 PM EST
    NC Slim

    But you guys like the rest, right? Zen-Hydra where were you when I was writing the above? :)

    • 1 vote
    #4.4 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:06 PM EST
    Susan-649485

    Absolutely the rest of it fits!

    Even the smile fits if we amend it to "smile with genuine humanity".

    • 3 votes
    #4.5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:10 PM EST
    Miss_Diagnosed

    That's because it's the predatory smile of a crocodile.

    Complete with crocodile tears...

    • 8 votes
    #4.6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:17 PM EST
    Shelby Davenport

    Thumbs up!

    • 1 vote
    #4.7 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:25 PM EST
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    frugalgovernment

    I heard the second term promises the R&D scientific findings about the GOP Gene, with a complimentry white paper about how the GOP Gene discovery is a boom to Democratic dominance going forward. Net, net the Republicans won't abort any baby, but, liberals and independents will. Obviously the GOP comes out on the losing end [politically] which is good for America according to the report. Gotta love successful second term presidents !!!

    • 2 votes
    Reply#5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:11 PM EST
    amelio

    They've been predicting things for as long as I can remember. Their track record as soothsayers is abysmal. It could not be otherwise, since the radical right twists everything into a slippery slope where the most extreme outcome imaginable becomes the certain one in their minds. Even though reality never seems to fit their predictions, they see it as nothing a little revisionist history can't fix.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:59 PM EST
    blindsided-1194485

    Rule #3 in the GOP playbook; When you're on the wrong side of the issues or have no intelligent ideas for change, cast aspersions on your opponent. Stewart lampoons these tactics as silly, but the GOP knows that there is a certain percentage of Americans who are idiots that can not distinguish between what is truth, lies, or propaganda. Their tiny brains are fertile ground for this nonsense. It has won the GOP many elections over the past fifty years. Don't underestimate the effect of "fear mongering."

    • 3 votes
    Reply#7 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:16 PM EST
    LassenPark

    What's that old legal saw? When the law's on your side, pound the law. If the facts are on your side, pound the facts. If neither, pound the table. That third option seems to be the default mode for the right wing.

    • 6 votes
    #7.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:58 PM EST
    Reply
    jpokergman

    Sampling models are unreliable at this point of the calender.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#8 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:22 PM EST
    LassenPark

    They seemed to be resigned to a second term. How uncharacteristically rational of them.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#9 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:56 PM EST
    Michael in S J

    Jon Stewart has gotten more enlightening entertaining lately.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#10 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:58 PM EST
    Navy Doc 8404/06/09

    Still no "change" that I voted for back then. terrorist terms went PC, the "under the radar" comment to Sara Brady followed by the Fast and Furious scandal, still no pics of OBL, and 90 days or more of silence after each major conflict and disaster. There's more Gov involvement in church issues, (and the lives of citizens for that matter) Gays still aren't recognized legally as a couple, I don't have confidence in anyone running this year and I've made up my mind not to settle for the lesser of two evils.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#11 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:19 PM EST
    LassenPark

    Funny, you seemed to think President Obama was the Republican nominee, or at least you just listed most of the lies this year's Rep candidates are running on as your issues.

    • 6 votes
    #11.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:34 PM EST
    Colonial82

    There's more Gov involvement in church issues, (and the lives of citizens for that matter)

    Navy Doc,

    I am sorry but that isn't true. The government did not ask churches to follow the birth control mandate. They only asked affiliated entities, which makes them not churches. Heck, I am saying this and I am Catholic.

    still no pics of OBL,

    I would never want them released because it is morbid (in my own opinion) and it will only cause trouble.

    Have a good day.

    • 15 votes
    #11.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:36 PM EST
    VerbalBarb

    I've made up my mind not to settle for the lesser of two evils.

    Of course, if everyone thought that way, the greater of two evils would win.

    Just sayin'.

    • 7 votes
    #11.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:40 PM EST
    Keav

    There are no pictures of OBL, so Obama might be lying, right?

    But did you ACTUALLY see Saddam Hussein hang?

    • 5 votes
    #11.4 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:41 PM EST
    Andy Horning

    VerbalBarb, that is horrible; I hope you're joking. You're dreaming if we can keep voting the way we've been voting forever.

    We The People have exactly and only what we have freely chosen.

    If the "Arab Spring" demonstrates anything at all, it's that even a well-armed, oppressive dictator is gone when people choose. And here, in the US of A, we choose in climate-controlled, button-pushing comfort.

    Sorry; we have nobody to blame but ourselves for all the violence we do to others, and all the debt we're pushing onto our kids for our selfish, present comforts.

    We chose this. No strategy here.

    We chose it.

    If we'd stop being evil ourselves, and stop choosing evil ourselves, we'd quit suffering the consequences of our stupid, evil choices.

    Oh, and Navy Doc, I applaud your decision to vote your conscience. Bravo.

    But have you looked at Ron Paul? What do you think?

    • 1 vote
    #11.5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:02 PM EST
    Topcat Roosevelt

    Conservative concern trolls lurking about...trying to convince you to throw away your vote...even if Obama was a horrible president, The cons offered are mindnumbingly godawful...and more importantly... You don't want them installing the next few Scotus judges

    • 5 votes
    #11.6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:07 PM EST
    Andy Horning

    Are you saying that voting for what you want, instead of what the bankster/moneychanger cronies tell you to vote for, is "throwing your vote away?"

    Really?

    Sigh...

    You have what you've chosen. I hope you're happy, and I hope your kids can forgive you.

    • 1 vote
    #11.7 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:13 PM EST
    Topcat Roosevelt

    I'm saying if you feel your vote doesn't matter, then vote, and keep voting till it does matter... don't cut your face off to spite your nose. Fortunately we have a better president than just about anybody in politics today, not perfect mind you but better and the perfect should not be the enemy of the good...

    • 4 votes
    #11.8 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:26 PM EST
    Andy Horning

    Well, you, Topcat can be happy with your vote because you like the nation we've become. If this is what you want, then you didn't waste your vote.

    My beef is with people who don't like the people they vote for, or worse, have no idea about their alternatives in the voting booth.

    How many people have read their state constitutions (or even the US Constitution)? How many people know what all those other names (and parties) on the ballot represent that they completely dismiss?

    I can tell you from experience and study (having run for office myself, having been a columnist and a think tank bloke) that well-over 90% of us vote worse than we drive. We've got our mind everywhere but on the job at hand. And we blame everybody but ourselves for the outcome.

    In a nation that's not had a year's peace since the War to End All War, and as we shred our liberties and our next generation's opportunities, I find that simply nauseating.

    • 2 votes
    #11.9 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:42 PM EST
    Plumpudding

    Well said Andy Horning....

      #11.10 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:48 PM EST
      Michael in S J

      I would like to thank all of you who voted your conscience November 2000 and spent your vote for Ralph Nader.

      Your vote for conscience likely gave us George W. Bush, two wars, TWO UNFUNDED WARS, an unfunded tax break for the least needy of us, an unfunded prescription drug scheme and Dick Cheney.

      I don't know if Al Gore would have been a better President, but I wish I had the chance to find out.

      • 3 votes
      #11.11 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:51 PM EST
      uaw-779887

      your mother know what your doing?

        #11.12 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:23 PM EST
        Navy Doc 8404/06/09

        Conservative concern trolls lurking about

        I'm not a conservative; I simply see through the BS our government is force-feeding us. The fact that you have to resort to labeling and name calling displays the worst in what you believe.

        Regarding my vote, it's mine, and I'm free to do with it as I please. My children will thank me for what I am teaching them now because in the end, they will be able to survive, independent of handouts and relying on themselves for their needs.

          #11.13 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:00 AM EST
          uaw-779887

          Yeah right you don't know the future fore your kids and you may just regret it.You don't have to use it if you don't need it but what if you do and it isn't there.Your willing to take the help from them if they need it because you said so

          • 1 vote
          #11.14 - Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:38 AM EST
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          Keav

          The funniest and saddest part of the Jon Stewart clip was the Sarah Conner clip.

          You really can't tell the difference between Conner and the Republican Doomsday Squad.

          It's sad, because Sarah Conner was right in the movie......maybe Newt and the Regressives know something we don't?

          • 2 votes
          Reply#12 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:39 PM EST
          Topcat Roosevelt

          I loved that splice! O'Donnell had one on his show that spliced Romney's awkward "trees are the right height" speech with the Steve Carell's mentally handicapped character from Anchorman...I like rug I like lamp...this primary is the most unintentionally funny primary ever!

          • 3 votes
          #12.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:21 PM EST
          newbroom

          "I like cars"..........all those little lakes that dot the inner places...

            #12.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:38 PM EST
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            army of insight

            It is truly crazy that people are still latching on to the Shell that is the Republican party. Their candidates are characters of their followers wet dreams. They do not have the numbers (as we're seeing) to really do anything. These debates are just entertainment and reality TV. So sit back and enjoy watching the right collapse upon itself, If I were Obama I would be lighting a victory cigar already and start planning on how to make some SERIOUS HEADWAY in his 2nd term.

            • 5 votes
            Reply#13 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:33 PM EST
            Territan

            army of insight: So sit back and enjoy watching the right collapse upon itself

            No.

            The fact that people are still crazy enough to buy what the Republicans are selling, even though it's demonstrably false and self-destructive in the long term, is why you should never assume your guy is going to win. There is never a reason not to get the word out, to contribute, to volunteer, and especially to counter the lies when you hear them; even if the person you're talking to is too Dunning-Krugered to take the hint, perhaps others nearby listening will realize just what's going on and what's at stake.

            Never underestimate the importance of countering crazy people.

            • 1 vote
            #13.1 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:59 AM EST
            Daniel A. Hallo

            Every Major Party that is now gone in America is gone because it went so far to the Right that it lost all credibility and support with the people, fragmenting to nothing, every one.

            The Loyalist were the first to go and the first Conservative Party who opposed our independence and supported King George the Third during the Revolutionary War.

            The Federalist and the Tories also went to far Right and died. Even the Liberal Whig party that Lincoln was member of was infiltrated. The Democratic party, the oldest Party in America, began as a Liberal Party and would have died out but for the transition back to a liberal leaning party during the late 50’s and early 60’s.

            So don’t say that the GOP can’t die, it’s happened before and will happen again. The Medias penchant for drama and the drama of politics for ratings and the infusion of the discredited and radicalized-neocon posers who took over the Tea-Party and infused the GOP in “010 with their astro-turf Billionaire propped up support won’t help them in ‘012 now that America has seen their true nature.

            • 1 vote
            #13.2 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:11 AM EST
            army of insight

            Fair points both of you. However you gave proof for it Daniel they will shatter... eventually... I understand that we need to keep fighting the good fight... and I will do so. However none of these candidates are remotely as legit as Mccain and we saw how that played out. The Right has lost a good amount of its base since then just by how ridiculous they are acting... Hell even Clint Eastwood will probably vote Democrat... I use to think I lost faith (I rarely use that term) in my country but I do believe the whole country will not be deceived by this calamity the Republicans are championing currently.

            So don’t say that the GOP can’t die, it’s happened before and will happen again. The Medias penchant for drama and the drama of politics for ratings and the infusion of the discredited and radicalized-neocon posers who took over the Tea-Party and infused the GOP in “010 with their astro-turf Billionaire propped up support won’t help them in ‘012 now that America has seen their true nature.

            Thats what I'm counting on.

            • 2 votes
            #13.3 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:32 AM EST
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            Andy Horning

            I personally hope that Ron Paul leaves the GOP and runs as a Libertarian. I hope that would put a nail in the coffin of not just the GOP, but also in that evil crony network of bankster/moneychangers with two marketing groups that we call "The Two Party System."

            But I've been hoping stuff like that for decades.

            Sigh...

            • 1 vote
            Reply#14 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:46 PM EST
            Mr G

            The Daily Show is brilliant again. Jon exposed how the anti-Obama talking points from the GOP/TP are fabricated, fear-mongering lies. And lies are all the GOP/TP really has to work with. They can't win with the truth so they make up lies or exclude the truth from the discussion. They don't deserve my vote.

            President Obama has my vote again.

            • 6 votes
            Reply#15 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:57 PM EST
            Philip Grant

            Can you imagine those facts put into a campaign commercial?

            • 1 vote
            Reply#16 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:14 PM EST
            newbroom

            I've been saying since the first GOP (attempt @ Television Exploitation) they're calling debates that the towel had been thrown in.

            There cannot be a serious thought of winning a Presidential Election by any of these candidates.

            Newt had to know that, because he's so damned good at the con

            ...but I just read that there's some controversy about him paying himself from his campaign donations...guess he'll never learn to appear ethical with the dough.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#17 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:45 PM EST
            Americanpatriot12

            Not sure about those "crazy" predictions. Realistically, MOST of us expected what we got -- a hopelessly mediocre prez. About the only time Obama does the nation any real good -- is when he's on the golf course. I'd have mentioned vacations too -- but for the fact his vacation trips on Air Force One waste tons of our tax dollars.

            But you get what you pay for! Obama WON because he ran against the McCain-Palin ticket. Forcing voters to try to pick the best of two impossibly bad choices. But with Obama's actual political experience simply being that of a "yes man" in the Illinois legislature. . . His Senatorial experience limited to setting himself up to run for the presidency. . . what else could we Americans have expected?

              Reply#18 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:20 PM EST
              LassenPark

              Not a peep out of this one during the Bush Calamity. No credentials for this one.

                #18.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:51 PM EST
                Mr G

                But you get what you pay for! Obama WON because he ran against the McCain-Palin ticket. Forcing voters to try to pick the best of two impossibly bad choices.

                Yes, the McCain-Palin ticket was pitiful but voters are always faced with choosing the best available candidate out of the group. Unless of course you're a robot-zombie, in which case the "best choice" criteria isn't even part of the equation.

                Obama won because enough people voted him the best choice out of all of the available candidates. He will win this November for the very same reason.

                • 2 votes
                #18.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:51 PM EST
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                skokie57

                The Republicans don't seem to realize that the sick fantasies they project upon President Obama only reflect their own fears, bigotries, and insecurities while revealing to the world their warped values. The crazier their accusations, the more sane people will realize that it is the Republicans and not Obama who's dangerous and deluded.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#19 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:17 PM EST
                Bootstraps

                2nd term ....that is crazy

                  Reply#20 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:30 PM EST
                  FactOfTheMatter

                  I don't think Republicans even believe the Republicans' crazy predictions for Obama's second term.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#21 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:46 PM EST
                  Daniel A. Hallo

                  I think you under estimate them.

                  "Two things are infinite: the universe and human conservative stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein


                  • 3 votes
                  #21.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:03 PM EST
                  LassenPark

                  I think you under estimate them.

                  I don't think it's possible to overestimate their capacity for stupidity and thuggishness.

                  • 3 votes
                  #21.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:33 PM EST
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                  AC-4267907

                  I think Jon discribes the republicans to a "T"

                    Reply#22 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:33 PM EST
                    gmc360

                    I worry about the Obama-is-the-antichrist crowd. If the rapture isn't here by election day, I think they will have to vote for him to get another crack at the end times fantasy. That's gotta hurt.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#23 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:35 PM EST
                    scott-1148057

                    I'm amazed you people care about the comments of stewart, a comedian.....who would care what a man paid to tell jokes thinks. This is why democrat extremism is destroying the party

                      #23.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:57 PM EST
                      redphish

                      I'm amazed you people care about the comments of stewart, a comedian.....who would care what a man paid to tell jokes thinks.

                      Stewart is obviously has far better observational skills that you. What's your defense for these absurd "predictions"?

                      This is why democrat extremism is destroying the party

                      How does the fact that right-wing extremists made bizarre claims about what would happen if Obama became president say anything about left-wing extremists allegedly destroying their party?

                      • 2 votes
                      #23.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:06 PM EST
                      scott-1148057

                      Stewart is obviously has far better observational skills that you.....obvious to who????, maybe stewart, but then again he's a comedian so who cares???? Don't confuse logic with " extreme leftist observational skills"

                      How does the fact that right-wing extremists made bizarre claims about what would happen if Obama became president say anything about left-wing extremists allegedly destroying their party?....so far most of the claims about obama have come true....he's spending us broke, destroying "the family" ruining the school system, trying to turn America into a secularist nation on and on

                        #23.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:32 PM EST
                        redphish

                        .so far most of the claims about obama have come true....he's spending us broke, destroying "the family" ruining the school system, trying to turn America into a secularist nation on and on

                        Oh sure he is.

                        • 1 vote
                        #23.4 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:34 PM EST
                        LassenPark

                        I'd walk to the other side of the street if I see someone like #23.3 coming my way.

                        • 3 votes
                        #23.5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:43 PM EST
                        redphish

                        he's spending us broke,

                        Congress decides where money is spent, not the president.

                        destroying "the family" ruining the school system, trying to turn America into a secularist nation

                        How is he doing any of this?

                        on and on

                        Please, try to justify the accusations you have already made before dragging us any farther into your fantasy world.

                        • 3 votes
                        #23.6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:44 PM EST
                        LassenPark

                        Federal spending has been steady at $3.5T a year for the past 3 yrs (the same level since Bush's last budget). The huge deficits have been due to Bush's recession and Bush's tax cuts that Republicans will not let expire.

                        • 2 votes
                        #23.7 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:54 PM EST
                        Territan

                        Oh hang on, lemme recross the streams on this one, aaaaand...

                        scott-1148057: I'm amazed you people care about the comments of stewart Victoria Jackson, a comedian.....who would care what a man woman paid to tell jokes thinks. This is why democrat extremism Republican wharrgarbl is destroying the party

                        Fascinating. And note the differences between them; Stewart plays video clips of Republicans and derides those while Miss Jackson uses bare assertions that are simply accepted.

                          #23.8 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:07 AM EST
                          Lynn-410457

                          Scott, Obama is ruining the educational system of our country??? How can he do that, when in fact he inherited that bogus system "No Child Left Behind" ushered in by your little Cheerleader W? Any educator who has a lick of common sense will tell you that the No Child Left Behind Initiative was a joke and never worked nor changed anything, but the Rethugs were just fine with it because their "man" W came up with and sold it hook, line and sinker to his rubber stamping buddies in Congress. So before you start winging BS out there, educate yourself to whats what.

                          • 1 vote
                          #23.9 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:33 AM EST
                          scott-1148057

                          but the Rethugs were just fine with it because their "man" W came up with and sold it hook, line and sinker to his rubber stamping buddies in Congress

                           

                          No Child Left Behind Act

                          The No Child Left Behind Act of 2001, also known as "NCLB" is a US federal law that was originally proposed by President George W. Bush in 2001. The legislation funds a number of federal programs aiming at improving the performance of U.S. schools by increasing the standards of accountability for states, school districts, and schools, as well as providing parents more flexibility in choosing which schools their children will attend. Additionally, it promotes an increased focus on reading and math.

                          The intent of NCLB is that all children will meet state academic achievement standards to reach their full potential through improved programs. The funding is divided into several areas, known as titles. In 2008, OCVTS received funding in support of these titles:

                          1. Title I, Part A supports programs and resources for disadvantaged students. Title 1A funding is designed to aid districts in closing the achievement gap by placing highly qualified teachers in classrooms.
                          2. Title 1, Part D is designed to serve delinquent and neglected youth in institutions, day programs, and correctional facilities to assure they attain high academic levels of achievement.
                          3. Title II, Part A provides resources for improving teacher and principal quality. It focuses on preparing, training, and recruiting high-quality teachers and principals.
                          4. Title II, Part D facilitates improved student academic achievement through the use of technology in the schools.
                          5. Title IV, Part A provides resources for fostering a safe and drug-free learning environment that supports academic achievement.

                          Before you spout off and sound ueducated, inform yourself on the subject.....the only people against NCLB are union cronies, socialists(like the bamster) and affirmative action wingnuts!!!

                            #23.10 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:10 PM EST
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                            Jeff-3469909

                            These people are absolutely insane.

                              Reply#24 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:00 PM EST
                              TheyreAllCrooks

                              I predict that shortly after #44President Barack Hussein Obama becomes the 45th President of these The United States of America...he will ride gleefully in "The Beast" back to The White House, have hundreds of superhuge loudspeakers installed on the grounds, and then go to The Oval Office window and moon the tea party, while "Kiss my freaking Birth Certificate" blares over the loudspeakers!

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#25 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:06 PM EST
                              Lynn-410457

                              TheyreAllCrooks, That would be such a fitting end to this bunch of old, angry white men who probably haven't accomplished much in their own lives and are bitter and angry at everyone. Who they need to blame is themselves, as they are the sum of their own choices.

                                #25.1 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:35 AM EST
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